Thread:Nusdan/@comment-26481819-20150813053628/@comment-25407271-20150813155111

Indeed, it will need. As Prime, I also oppose to some and support others:

GS Irber wrote: A candidate must be either a chat mod, or a moderator. They must have held the position for 45 days, and be active on the wiki.

We do not need to overcome members to administrators if they lack any sort of "leading" experience through their time in the wiki, although I support and oppose this one; reasons: I support it because administrators do need a slight experience as the leaders of something so they know how to take care of problems regardless of others, but I also oppose because I dig more into experience than duration on them. For example, Taolithe had been a chat moderator for days, but in the meantime, he was not even in the chat and barely said a word/took actions on anyone. Get me? Like Prime said, it is a prerequisite we can either jump or consider, but both options are neccessary.

GS Irber wrote: They must have been active on the wiki for a minimum of 4 months, and have accumulated at least 700 edits.

I do see the activity thing, but not for how long they have been. Obviously, duration is a fact to take in consideration, but not always mean how fitting they are to anything. Of course, 4 months is a good time to see how the person's attitude towards members and staff; but it is quite long whatsoever. I would rather directly test them than look at them acting normally for 120 days, I am neutral on this one.

Regarding edits, I oppose. As I told you already, when I was promoted I had like 140-240 edits. They were not quality edits at all, but sometimes making a difference can be better than you expect it to be. We also lack a good amount of articles, and to have 700+ edits you would have to:


 * You must have been a member for a very long time.


 * You are ultimately posting on forums just to gain edits.

Otherwise, I do not see how you could gather 700 edits in 4 months or from nowhere at all.

GS Irber wrote: They must have generally well behavior, and have good relations with the wiki (Regular Users and All). They must have been helpful to the wiki, such examples are but are not limited to: finding spam, moderating the chat, and aiding other users on the wiki. The user MUST be over the age of 13. This is to ensure the utmost mature individuals get selected. If the user fits the bill, the candidate will NOT be informed about their selection to ensure that their behavior does not change during the election process.

Needless to mention, although I do not know what COPPA is. I agree on this one, it is quite obvious.

GS Irber wrote: If the user has had previous unexcused incidents in the past, it may impact the view of them (depending of the serverity of the incident).

I think that if the user has had problems already and caused problems to member, he/she is an instant nope on my list regardless of who him/her is, and even more if the person cannot even excuse them and lasted for a very long time and nothing was solved. I agree.

GS Irber wrote: If the user has three or more violations of wiki rules, they will be ineligible to become admin (exceptions may apply).

Both support and oppose. Support because already violating the wiki rules is showing that you did not even know them (or mistakenly performed an error, mindless to know it was one) and oppose because of Prime's reasons. Although, if problems (also considering the rule above) have lasted too long it is another reason for me to delete them from my candidates list whether or not he has changed.

One has to see sometimes what they have done and focus on them, rather than look at how much they have "changed" because it may, sometimes, be another game to hide everything and act as if nothing happened so they can manipulate oneself and everyone else.

GS Irber wrote: If the candidate is eligible to become admin, they will proceed to the "Voting And Community Appeal Process" (Section II).

Looking forward to this. I expect to see this coming soon. Good work on all this Irber, you are going through the correct way!