Thread:ZOptic/@comment-5645428-20170301114424/@comment-27022259-20170302005619

All of this was after I read your reply to this: Hackey, this was none of Nusdan's doing. Please do not think he is the mastermind of all of this. The entire reply was written by me and only me.

Deception? Where have we deceived you? Do you think this was all one big plot to get you demoted? I don't care about some promotion. That's not why I am here. You think I've spent all this time just for some petty promotion? How could you throw out our dedication and hard work to this place like that? My main purpose of this entire thing was to improve our communication skills and learn from this experience, not to degrade you. With that in mind, please read this.

This was written before: Hackey5 wrote: "...how little regard [I] have for the community"? This is plain false. What motivated you to say this?" That was not meant to be taken broadly. I meant that in the context of this very situation, not your entire career. In fact, everything in that reply was supposed to be taken that way, not on your overall well-being. It was not supposed to be taken as a personal attack, as you've said. The purpose of my criticisms were to review your handling of this situation. Sure, some may have seemed more provocative than other parts, I admit that and I apologize for it. That was far from my intent. Hackey5 wrote: "I never said it was "[you and Nusdan's] fault" for the board dilemma."  Hackey5 wrote on Trinket's thread: "And again, not a single staff member objected or even commented on my locking of the boards until then. Note that I was also the one to initiate that conversation. How am I supposed to know what plan of action you wish to take if you do not say anything? Because you didn't do so earlier, I assumed you had no issues, and I proceeded to follow up with the Off Topic board after the initial group was locked." I took that as a "that's your guys' fault everyone's mad". Not sure about everyone else. Hackey5 wrote: " I will not sacrifice my own wellbeing or compromise my work schedule, staying up early in the morning just to facilitate live chats when you happen to be present. I have a life outside the wiki." I completely understand that, but you cannot say that your lack of activity on chat for us is not ridiculous. It has been like this since I've joined the wiki, and as Nusdan has said, it is frustrating and a bummer. It's one of the biggest, if not the biggest drawback we have from a communication standpoint. The most meaningful discussions, to me, take place on chat, or any real-time chatting service at all. I've already explained why in my response. Hackey5 wrote: "Now, when you say that "the majority of users on here are pretty much afraid of you" this to me is completely unsubstantiated. I have no reason to believe this." You would have to be quite observant around the community. Are they comfortable with questioning you? I've met users in the past who have told me that they expect admins to, essentially, be users who are human-less. If your community perceives you as such, that is a mere symptom of not involving yourself with the community. Making sure everyone is comfortable with you is essential to being a staff member. Could you have been comfortable around the community a few years ago, the same community who gave you the thumbs up for your campaign, if you will, for bureaucrat? Could that community reciprocate that comfort? Judging by your response, I guess so. I wouldn't know. But as the years have passed, you have grown increasingly inactive. As the years pass, so do the community. It's always being interchanged with new members, and then you start missing a lot. Point being, if someone from today's community were to say that they know you as the boss who edits and codes, I wouldn't blame them for thinking that. Notice the lack of personality in that statement. How can they think any different? I'll elaborate more on this later down. Hackey5 wrote: "I do believe there were opportunities for you to speak up regarding my actions, whether you realised or not, but I have acknowledged my lack of communication." You are still blaming this on us? Hackey5 wrote: "Just because we meet each other infrequently and have concerns about recent events does not mean that I am not active or care any less about the community." Sure seems like it. One of the ways you can show you care about the community is always interacting with them. Frankly, the most interaction I've witnessed from you is your participation of the Jack of All Trades game. And that was a long time ago. Chat is probably the best way to interact with the community given the members actually use it (which fortunately is the case). We all know how active you are there.

A lot of us have concerns about recent events, that does not make you much different from everyone else.

I want to reiterate that none of what I've said was meant to be an attack of your involvements here and your person. If that is what it seems like, then I apologize. I have constantly praised your work here to the other members who have not had the fortune of meeting you, saying how good of a person you are and how much effort you put into this place. They may not realize it at first, but once I get a hold of them, they definitely do. And that's really the most disappointing thing. You are a cool guy to talk to about anything. You always have something to add to the conversation, and you are, of course, very neutral. That is really damn hard to do. People would kill for those abilities. The disappointing aspect is that only a handful of people get to actually talk to you. Not just a simple question, an actual conversation. That is what being involved to the community means to me. For them to actually know the person behind the madness. This is what makes one comfortable with someone else.

People could learn a thing or two from you, Hackey. A lot of your staff have first-hand experience. But a student cannot learn without a teacher.