Board Thread:Wiki General Discussion/@comment-28236282-20160925073054/@comment-26336673-20161006015011

When I first read this, I didn't take this too seriously, as I wasn't involved in it.

However, now that even the admins are ranting, I feel that I have to pitch in as well.

On Bans
Okay, I can't really way I have a side on this one. Being a bureaucrat myself on another wiki, I can't say that bans are punishments or disciplines or whatever you guys think it is. That being said, I see that 3Primetime3 is actually correct. In Wikipedia's blocking policy, they actually state that blocks should be preventative, not punitive. However, the way bans are used is for punishment in some form, which is where I develop my uncertainty. As to whether indefinite bans should be used, what exactly does indefinite mean? It does not mean INFINITE, it means for whatever time length until that person wants to be forgiven for it, and the admin forgives it.

Thus, there should ALWAYS be a chance for someone to be forgiven. However, if it is clear that that person was being repeatedly malicious, than at that point, there should be no forgiveness anymore.

On Discord
I look into the Discord chat quite frequently, and yeah, it does contain a lot of drama. The big problem is that people take it to this wiki, and there's more drama.

So they shouldn't bring it here, right?

Yeah, if they weren't members here, and (some) of the issues didn't come from this wiki. Surprisingly, I see that some drama that began HERE in this wiki was carried over to Discord, only to have it turned back here. They still shouldn't bring the drama here, but remember, situations like these are more complicated than what most people think.

I have to deal with drama quite a bit. Not with arguing with people, but having to RESOLVE it. And ALMOST ALWAYS, the key to end the argument is to discover the source of the problem, and have the third party member see what they can do to solve it.

This is rather generic, I know, but it works a lot for me.